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King Dodongo Tutorial by JasperSandner King Dodongo Tutorial by JasperSandner
Here's a tutorial on how I made King Dodongo. Let me know if you have questions! Hope it helps.
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iNicklas Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014
I couldn't even do the first part.-.
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johnwilliamcook Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014
Love the tutorial. Two questions: I moved from Photoshop to Painter because I wanted to get a more organic feel to the textures, but you seem to manage that in Photoshop just fine; I'm especially looking at the early stages where the colors are nicely mottled and varied. Any tips there? Second, when you used your "fish bone" brush, did you go back and "dig" those textures further into the piece, line by painstaking line?
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JasperSandner Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014
Thanks, glad you liked it. At the early stages I like to be creative with my color palettes. Here it's probably even a little refined, but it's good to push colors further than you would normally go, at least early on. My colors tend to get a little more subdued as I render detail, so starting out with a wide range helps it stay versatile throughout the rest of the painting. No tips really for doing that, just be sure to constantly change your colors, don't use any one color for too long. I use the color sliders to quickly adjust colors as I'm painting. And yes, I did go back in and dig the textures out more with hand rendered detail. Hope that helps!
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johnwilliamcook Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014
It does, thanks for the reply. With regard to the organic feel of the textures early on, I think I'm reacting more to the brush work than anything else. As I said, very organic feel to it. My photoshop work feels a bit clinical in the shapes and blending of the strokes. Was there anything that you found helped you in that regard - opacity/jitter settings, transfer modes, brush shapes, or just slightly changing your colors very frequently for instance?
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JasperSandner Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2014
Nothing technically, the brush settings really tend to just be an afterthought as I'm painting. If I feel like I need to make a change or adjust brushes to get a stroke I'm  looking for, I'll tweak some settings until it's the way I like, but it's different everytime. However I'm in the mood to paint. The thing that helped me was studying painting in other mediums- oil, acrylic, gouache, pastels - and applying things I learned through those mediums.
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ARRD-ART Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Fantastic tutorial, and very helpful! I'm a traditional artist, but I've been trying to get better and better at digital art, as it seems that's what people are looking for nowadays. I admire your work very much! It seems you do alot of game based artwork, do you have any pointers on how a struggling artist would better get himself noticed?
<3 Tony.
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JasperSandner Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013
Well you've only been on DA for a week, so give it some time! Keep working, keep posting work, use social media, and if you're consistent people will start to notice and take interest!
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ARRD-ART Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Will do! Thanks very much for your comment! :happybounce:
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laurelineparis Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Student Artist
I would like some helps , the brushes ???
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el-douglas Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Professional General Artist
awesome tut lots of info and help thx
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BiwerVincent Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Great tutorial, may i ask you how long it takes for an illustration like this.
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AlivanArt Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013
amazing stuff, i struggle with value painting aswell.. and feel like im doing double the work... so i need to start straight too color too!

i had a question.. how do you determine the initial shadow color.. in the first steps, do you rely on the color dodge to give you that? or do you just pick the darker color of the local color...
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JasperSandner Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2013
Neither! No color dodge/burn unless you understand exactly what you want to do with it. It tends to create too much of a mathematical gradation in value/hue, so much so that it can become very obvious when someone has used the tool to handle their values. If you're trying to learn, use the color sliders to select a color for the shadow. Try to use a different color temperature for the shadow and the highlight (so cool shadows vs warm light or reversed). Study from life as much as you can and look up some info on color theory if you really want to get a grasp on it. After you've done it a bunch from life, it becomes easier to determine colors and values from your imagination.
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AlivanArt Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2013
thanks alot! it seems easier to know the shadow once you know the surroundings... ive talk to an artist who said the cool/warm thing is relative and most of the time the shadow color is based on its surroundings.. like warm sun lighting casting a cool blue shadow because the sky is blue.. but without outside interference as an fades into the shadows, it would just be the darker color of the local color right? like in space.. sorry if im asking too much
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JasperSandner Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2013
I suppose if there are no surroundings, it would just be a darker shade of the local color...but then, it would really be more like grayscale, rather than color, right? I think what makes using color unique and powerful is how they relate to the colors around them. You can do so many things with the color of your shadows and lights, so I think you would be greatly limiting yourself if you chose to only use a darker local color.
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AlivanArt Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2013
Thanks alot, im not limiting my shadow colors, im actually fasinated by shadow colors, i just needed to confirm what the color would be without anything surrounding it, thanks for making it clear to me
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Inenarrable Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2012   Digital Artist
EXCELLENT ILLUSTRATION AND TUTORIAL.
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daGohs Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
EPIC
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GHudston Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I am completely in love with the texture you got with that "fish skeleton" brush. Using pressure to control angle jitter seems like it would be really difficult to use, any tips?
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JasperSandner Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2012
Hey thanks! Well, I don't really use pen pressure to actually 'control' it, it just gives a little more randomness to the direction. If you want to control the direction more, set angle jitter to direction or initial direction.
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GHudston Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Ah, ok. I guess it's one of those brushes that's set up to create "happy accidents", I'll give it a try and see what happens. I'm only recently starting to experiment with textures and textured brushes in my painting (there's more on my blog at hudston.com, I only really use dA to browse now!) so I'm always looking for more things to add to my toolbox as it were. Thanks for the tip. :)

Don't suppose you could point me in the direction of this brush?
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JasperSandner Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2012
Ah well I made the brush myself. A lot of people have been asking about it, but I haven't had a chance to try and upload it anywhere. It's part of my larger brush set, which has a bunch of unrefined WIP brushes in it and I don't want to upload something lame haha. Give it a try making one yourself and see how it turns out.
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GHudston Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Student Digital Artist
No problem, I'll keep trying and see what I come up with! Thanks again. :)
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Allendra3 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Awesome!
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DevilsMayCry666 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2012
Amazing tutorial! It's very descriptive ... help me so much! Where can I find that awesome brush? The texture is excellent ...
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s1naptic Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Excellent! Thanks for sharing!

I'm going to try your dodge/burn layer method for correcting values rather than starting from a pure black and white underpainting... Sometimes when I work that way I tend to struggle with a color palette later...

Thanks again!
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Oblivexx Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I feel like an idiot, but is this from the legend zelda for the N64?
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JasperSandner Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012
Haha don't feel like an idiot. You're right, this is fromm the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, for the N64.
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Zeitzeugin Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Just amazing. Thank you for sharing!
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kungfoowiz Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012
Thank you for sharing your ideas about your work, it is very helpful =)
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willpheonix Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012
Thanks alot for doing this for us man, very insightful and helpful. Can't wait to see how you tackle the other bosses.
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Nianto Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012
oh. wow, that's quite cool. thanks for taking the time for this, it's kinda helpful. I were wondering so often if I try to get my values down in greyscales first, but somehow I couldn't manage the colourbalance afterwards so good.

I will definitly take a look at this more often again :)
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AJNazzaro Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012
Thank you for this thorough tutorial! I really appreciate it and have a question:

Do you apply one of the sharpening techniques before of after you scale the image down for web viewing?

Do you just mean that through JPEG compression the image loses some of its original crisp lines?
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JasperSandner Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012
I'm not an expert on imaging science, so anyone can feel free to correct me, but there's a slight loss of fine detail when you downsize an image. This can be rectified when printing, since you can simply increase the dpi to account for it, but this doesn't help on monitors. I sharpen the image after scaling for web. Of course it doesn't actually bring any of the detail back to it's previous state, but it makes what's left of it stand out a little more.
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AJNazzaro Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012
Much appreciated!
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YukeraYasha Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
very informative!
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obsessedkitten Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Ahh this is such a nice step by step guide. Really loved seeing your process. I was wondering how come you prefer not to start in grayscale? I've become really comfortable working with grayscale first and I think I would feel really lost if I didn't. I would however like to start painting with colour straight away, but I'm not sure how to tackle it.
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JasperSandner Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012
A large part of how I study is through painting directly from life. I paint directly in color from life, since grayscale isn't actually what I'm seeing. Maybe it's a personal thing, but I can see more accurate values when working in color, because that's how we see things everyday. If I do start in grayscale, I try to spend as little time there as possible before moving on to color. Grayscale is good to work out compositions and designs, but I'll usually restart a painting directly in color after I've figured those things out. The only way to get better at it is to keep doing it! Just start painting from life!
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obsessedkitten Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for replying! I may actually pick up my dusty real life paint brushes and do some proper painting to see where it takes me. Also, really enjoyed your and Jais chatty livestream :)
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JasperSandner Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
Yeah do it!! Thanks for coming on the stream haha
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yourbigbrowneyes Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012
You've definitely proven yourself a master of digital painting if THATS your process. Holy crap, you're just too incredible.
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JasperSandner Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012
Haha does it seem like a strange process? I use different approaches all the time, it's just how I felt like working at the time. Thanks, but I'm certainly not a master yet :)
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Ashlmet Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Student Filmographer
Wonderful, this is certainly useful!

Thank you for making it!
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manabreakfast Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
this is the perfect tutorial! there are so many process tuts and walkthroughs around dA that explain "okay i painted this, and then it was done." but this has these little eye-openers that change the way an artist does things, like the free-transformed armor pieces shortcut, and painting the rest of the mouth BEFORE the teeth (seriously, why did i not think of this before?).

anyways, thanks for taking the time to do this! it was very insightful :)
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scottaltmann Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012
this great info man - thanks for sharing! killer piece too
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Dash-X Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you. This has given me some ideas for my own processes! Immensely useful.
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CatsGoPurr Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Student Digital Artist
amazing! where can I find that brush?
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Lalam24 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Do a fancy edit where there's a bomb in his mouth, and link running away with a devious smile on his face.
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JMKilpatrick Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012   Digital Artist
Thankyou for sharing this
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